Just build your world a lot of these will come in by them selves. Just work on the story and what sort of baddy ya need to fill that role. If ya can't then maybe your need classes on writing and story building.
A lot of writer aren't that good with graphics but we can't do that if ya don't give us a clear discretion of said characters. This is a small community so don't expect a sort team to come from this. If ya have an idea of a game then work on the story and what ya want into the game first, the graphics, music, and scripting can come later. I know your not done with that as you asking for question if ya should do this or that. Figure out what ya want first then we can talk about the rest.
We need the plot, story, and how characters personality and motives. Get all three and we got that frost part done. Like I and few other have said, this will take a lot of time and don't be in such a rush it takes a lot of planing and time to do this. If ya really want to get into done then just stat with this short stories about the back story or the world so we can at least get an idea a how you want this done.
No is a better idea to begin with the letter first.Parakarry come as usual with letters. -Parakarry:Mail call Luigi go outside and take the letters Luigi go inside and begin to read (You can help me here to decide were it will be the party,but i don't want to be in mushroom kingdom i want to be in another kingdom,a new kingdom.I thought at fire flower kingdom,but you can come with another names) Dear Mario and Luigi, You're invied to annual (You come with a cool name) Fest.I need You to annual hero's speech (or if you have an better idea,say it to me).After that we will have a spectacular party with guest from all around of world.They're want to meet you,and to hear you great stories I will wait for you ~Princess Toadstool,Peach~
OK so we have Peach sending us a letter to a festival. A new kingdom? How about Kingdom of steel with is focus on Medieval theme so toad/Koopas will be were Armor and stuff, maybe even go as far as Name it aver a weapon to foreshadow it's important in the game. Maybe it a yearly thing that some evil knight or wizard long ago and was defeated by a brave knight/knights. Which helps set the game give the parallel world idea ya got, so in the other world that brave night lose so the parallel version of the kingdom would be name after that villain.
Cool idea!I will think more at a name for kingdom,but the festival will be named korengdon's fest,which celebrate the day of victory of the war of Antagon's army and Kodengdon's army,were was caged the demon in the"Millenium Box"created by the 4 intelligent heroes.But in the places were the past battles were taken a weird phenomenon was happen some weird portals was appear,some leading to another dimensions,some leading to a parallel world,the normal world seen in mirror.The place were are the most parallel portals is the Storm's Peak.After the last battle,Korengdon became the king and he build a great town,the town were yearly is taken a big fest to celebrate the victory of the great war and the born of the kingdom.Ok that's the story of the kingdom and the fest.If you don't like it you can come with another ideas.
OK so Korendon is the good guys while Antagon and Kodengdon are the bad's? Can ya go more in depths with them.
I suggest either going with a parallel idea or dimension only. It become way too complex try nad figur it all out, the way ya have it set up though seem to lean toward the parallel story idea. I will suggest that one for simplifying the story. Mario has very been that complex in story wise so we should keep it more or less straight. Ya can ditch the parallel idea and use dimensions intends but ya need to come up with rules on how it all works. As mention before if ya don't set up rules then that can fall into the cluster mess area and we want to avoid that.
Up to ya which one ya want to go for.
As for the portals, I give ya to ideas as what would be good while being simple.
1. One of villains of the parallel world is using something to take over other worlds and is causing a distortion in ours. 2. During the fair someone is using a new device but malfunctions and creates a worm hale to appear. (Prof. E. Gadd could fit this role is how sometime his gadgets don't work the best). 3. The fair show case a legendary item and duo to some accent cause it to ripped through space and time. (if ya want Bowser to be involve this would give him a reason to pair with them as well a bit of comedy scene with him)
Now depending on how ya ant to proceed, we can make the fair as a hub as make it act like a place where ya learn more of the history and what more tid bits about the demon and the other villains. If ya want it to only be the other world then tat can also work. If ya want the first then we have two way of proceeding here.
1. We make this like Partners in time and we don't really explore this world but we;ll have a lot pf portals throughout the area we can use to go to other areas of the parallel world.
2. We have two whole world to explore with portal leaning to new area as we progress. We could even have bosses and dungeons with in the normal world.
Now there are other idea but I think these would fit your the best.
No,there was a typo error,is only Koengdon.Korengdon is the good guy and Antagon is the bad guy.Yes i will do these portals only in half of chapters,but i have a problem now:how i will do the chapter 4 now? Mayble Kirby will come from space with he's star.
You have the idea with the villain of an another dimension 1)Yes i can do it,but i have Antagon,and he can go in the parallel world 2)It can help Antagon
Yes i can do the stuff with the blackhole as a saving operation,or i don't know Luigi can be absorbed of it and discover new stuffs.
Yes,Bowser want find the box,because he need the demon is hes plan:the demon finds all 12 stars,bowser steal the stars and chage again the demon,bowser get the interdimensional scissors,find the power sphere and the last stuff in the Bowser plan and that it's probably the most important:he will take a big party to celebrate he's victory.
I thought is a little bit ridiculous idea to make that Luigi's styles...But I don't know,what do you say,Luigi have too much partners or no? Yes that's are better ideas.
I have some new ideas too: 1)I think i will work on 2 stories:What Luigi do in kingdom and what are villains do.It will be like original Paper Mario after a chapter,show what are villains do and i think,that help the player to understand more about Antagon's plans.That's mean the wake of the demon will happen after prologue. 2)Yes I thought at the idea Luigi stops bad guys before they're get box,but is too far and airships are faster than Luigi and that's mean when Luigi will arrive,it will be too late 3)Ok we have that parallel world idea and i think we can link it with chapters, like in chapter 1 we have 2 kingdoms in war and i think is cool idea to fight in parallel 4)If we have 13 chapters i think we need a new rank for boots and hammer.I created the hyper rank for it and for partners attack too
Ok we have these ideas but you can come with another if you don't like it
1. Is Antagon the bad guy or not? It sound ya want Bowser to be the villain now. 2. Focus on Mario only, no slash stuff OK. 3. Is Antagon the demon or not? Also I thought the villain was from the Parallel world and the 12 star are for opening the box? 4. Wait where did black holes come from? I said to use the fair/castle ground as a hub nothing about portals (They more act as gates if anything) Black Holes are a different thing all together. 5. Is a bit much before Bowser, why not just the 12 stars and leave it to that. That all ya really need. 6. How many partners ya have plan. I would say 5 min and 8 max. 7. Style change seem unneeded, Mario Party 2 did it for the play theme it was going for but this doesn't have that excuse. 8. That's up to you, a can do a bit of for shadowing or back stories with them or ya can keep a mystery around that and thus their end goal will end up being a surprise. 9. You have not told about any thing about what ya gonna do in fair, so I don't what you talk about here explain your story in order first. 10. Tell me more about the Antagon (and the Demon if they aren't the same).
Ok i will try to tell you more explained the stor yand answer to your question
1)Let's begin with demon,because i see you don't understand.Antgon is the demon.He is the main villain.He was a teen who was cursed by the Black Star and transformed into a demon.Now he is only a demon,not anything esle.Now to understand why seems like Bowser is in fact the main villain.Did you remember when I explained you about the battles of Koengdon's army and Antagon's army and i said" caged the demon in the Millenium Box created by the 4 intelligent heroes".We have that box which was buried in ground.Ok now we talk about Bowser.Bowser have a plan to find the box,release the demon,find the 12 stars(All 12 stars are not open the box.They're give an mystic artifact,the Interdimensional scissors,i think you're understand 12 stars=Interdimensional Scissors)with demon's help,after he find the 12 stars,to cage the demon again in the box and to travell in the dimension were is hidden the stars treasure the Power Sphere,which give God powers.And now i will explain you why Bowser is not the main villain.After Bowser release the demon from box,he tricks the demon he want help from demon to find all 12 stars and he will belp the demon too to domain the world and all existing.The demon have a plan:after he find first star to leave that dummy named "Bowser' and domain the world and all existing.And Bowser will be beaten by the demon, he is more powerful.Ok i think you undersand Bowser open the box,he trick the demon,after chapter 1 demon leaves Bowser,and beat him. 2)What's the problem if i want to be Luigi hero this time.I think is more intresting with Luigi and Mario is everytime the hero.I think Luigi need hes adventure too in paper Mario series 3)I want to be a longer adventure and i go with link between stars and Clock.That colck is like in TTYD is the place wre Luigi put the stars.Plus I like so much"The Clock Of Worlds"from title,. 4)I will go with 12 partners 5)Sorry with black holes,I read wrong... 6)Ok if you want i will summarize the story of the game in the next reply to understand what i want 7)After you will understand the story and we decide what do,I want to begin the work. 8)if you don't understand something,just tell me.
1. So antagon was possessed my a dark star, how does Bowser know of the box and how does he open it (Seem something of a magic seal by the sound of this)? What does the other world have to do with this, looks like ya don't even need a parallel world? What are the Scissor and Sphere for? That bit seem ok but could have a Antasma relations and have them together while having the Demon foreshadowing betraying Bowser and keep it near the end intsend of so early.
2. No I mean your Kirby comment. Only Mario characters, that what I was getting at.
3. I was getting the idea that the Villains would be collection them not Luigi. But now that leave this, what does time have to do with this?
4. 12 too many, far too much work would be involve in backstory and solo segments. Cut that down to at least 8 and we should have enough to work with while not getting too complex with the story.
5. Your welcome to send me a PM if ya don't want to spoil anything on here.
Ok I'm a little dummy...sorry for all my read wrongs...It's ok if you understand finally what i want to say,but i will answer to all your question
1)Ok if you will read my looong story,you will see i said:A mysterious man helps Bowser.I said that mysterious man is Sir Grodus.I remember Sir Grodus have a powerful technology and i think he can have something can detect were the box is buried.They work together.I don't know what to do,they're work all together or not...Ok you ask me what are that sphere and scissor.Interdimensional Scissor can create portals to another worlds by saing were you want to go and by making a cut on a wall or everything is not air,because you can't cut the air.The Power Sphere is a magical object which give power of God,but it's heavily guarded.If you want to know,Antagon is not powerful as a god,because he is not a pure demon.Scissor make portals to another dimensions and Sphere give you power of God. 2)I rlly don't know what to do,i think is a little to much too...but i want to do a longer game too...I can't decide what to do... 3)Ok i wanted to suggest you to give you some PM,but is great if you want do do that
To be honest it quiet a read and can't expect me to remember everything.
1. Gordous mean the X nouts be involve. Only problem I see here is where we got the complex side showing. From your earlier post you completely neglected him so almost sound like you threw him away as soon as the box is open. My suggesting here is remove one of them as a villain and make the other a sort of side plot thing. I think Grodous would make a better villain then Bowser and Bowser he could act as comedy, so ya get a nice Bowser fight in the last dungeon. The scissor sound like an item to created portals to areas we couldn't go previous, a late game item perhaps? The area that the Power Sphere is found could be our last dungeon a race to the item kinda of thing.
2. Just set as 8 and we work around from what we get, 13 chapter mean a lot more is going on but also make sure we aren't not making any filler stuff. Each chapter needs to have the main plot goal in mind regardless what's in it. In other words, We need to make sure there nothing too distracting for the player and make it clear what we are trying to do on this quest. 12 is a big Number, don't be afraid to lower it down if ya just not coming up with any good ideas here. I always work with a 8 Area/chapter format as it's a good length adventure.
3. Hey is your story if ya want to do it privately that's your call, I'm just a helper here.
From what I gather so far it seem the chapters are gonna focus on each star with the last one being about the Sphere. Is that correct?
1. OK we can have too scenes, one shows Grodous/X-Nouts awaking the Demon with a device of some kind. Then we have Bowser getting a report that Peach has been Kidnapped not by him and thus he head over then to stop them and kidnap Peach himself. And we have both in their own sub plots.
2. OK 7 stars and a finale set up that will work well.
3. We still need a reason for it as your last chapter stated the Parallel world exist so we need conflict to push that into the story. Perhaps we can has two Antagon's one a demon and the other is what ever race ya were going for them and he be a conflict of a certain chapter. And was he would started the portal thing. We can even build him up in a couple Chapters.
4. OK Cool! Now we just need a legend or some back story to lead into the main story. Maybe the main reason why Grodous need Antagon is that he the only one that can sense the stars but Grodous just wants the Sphere, so he will seal I'm back up once then get them all but the demon end up back stabbing them. a Plot twist for Chapter 7 if ya will.
5. How about a 100% reword that show the Black Star regenerate after the demon has fallen?
1.Yes Grodus want only the sphere.Before the final boss Antagon will steal again the sphere and use it,but i thing it will be more interesting if demon posses Mario.
2.The star will regenerate.That's good,but the next game will be with galaxy and space.We need to link some how the Black Star with space.After we defeat the demon,he become a normal man.
3.The parallel worlds existing because like in chapter 1,the star is on the parallel world and portals help we to make some progress in real life by unlock something in parallel world and vice versa.
4.Yes In the parallel world works like a mirror,is a reflection of reality but a little different but with the reflection of Antagon was happen something weird,in the parallel world he is a good guy(but he is the single case,that's mean Luigi is good in parallel world,enemies are bad in the parallel world,only Antagon have a problem in the parallel world)and that an be the conflict.
5.Yes Bowser will rescue the princess,but only she,because he hate Mario.
6.Exactly!Antagon can feel the stars,that's why he need Grodus need Antagon.I had this idea earlier but i don't said it!
1. We gonna do a Dream team? Last chapter will have the betrayal and we fight Grodous then shortly after that we fight Antagon, then final Mario. Is that what your going for?
2. Why not add a luma into that ending, we could have the star stalk it giving a foreshadowing of it maybe taking over the Observatory.
3. So the stars are in the other world, OK that can work but I suggest have a mix that say 3 of them are found here and 3 are found over there. And the last one require both worlds to find. Given both worlds a use rather the just one.
4. Hmm what if the Dark Star is obi-sent and can distort time and space. Thus why our world was altered.
5. Not rescue, kidnapped. He just want her but say she important to th3 demon so a chapter will focus on Bowers with a star being involve in the process. He then come back to try again in the last chapter.
6. Now all we need is why the Demon need Grodous, by all a counts he as no need for him. So we need a reasoning for this.
1.We gonna do something like Dream Team,but We have the stars.The parallel worrld important than deam world from Dream Team.
2.Yes Luma is good idea!Now the dark star is the villain,but i suggest to be helped by a guy who destroy planets, and our world to be in danger.I aslo suggest to play with mario in the next game or we can keep Luigi.
3.Perfect,we have set the locations of the stars!
4.This is great!Sorry if i speak about the next games but your ideas help me!At the final of the next game,the Black Star will make a portal,but she will crack and will destroy after that.The portal lead to the source of the time and space,The Creation Book
5.Ok,Bowser will kidnapping the princess Peach,but in a later chapter,ilke 4 or 5.
6.Demon need Sir Gordus's help because he think will be more easy to get the stars with Grodus because he have a powerful technology.After find all 7 stars (or 8),the demon will get rid of Grodus
Well that's depends, if ya want to keep the Medieval theme then we should have Chapters base about those ideas. They are many stories myths a tales/legends we can use for base chapter ideas. I leave that up ta ya, I don't want to end up staeling this story.
Ok let's see.I want To keep:Chapter 1:with medieval,I will combine chapter 2 with chapter 5,Chapter 6 with haunted mansion,I will combine chapter 9 with 7,i will combine chapter 3 with 10.,Chapter 10 with digital,chapter 11 wit sweet land.Ok tha's are my ideas
Ch. 2 & 5 - No good...Again if we want to keep to out Quota we can't use other themes. A desert area is OK but western one would go against what we are doing. I suggest a wasteland/desert area that more focus on survival and we can have a sort of banit gang that's after the star but other wise we have to rdone Ch.2 stuff while 5 is pretty fine.
Ch. 6 - lot of potential here and nothing out of place within the story.
Ch. 9 & 7 - Temple of the sky Temple works here as for the gladiator one...Make it more of coliseum function rather the space and we got an interesting set up without it going too weird.
Ch. 3 & 10 - This one is tricky The underground city is neat but the Virus one is hard to do, at least keeping with our theme. We can get away if the virus isn't tech but magic in nature thus all magic base golems and what not can be in used here.
Ch. 11 - A sweat theme? Not bad, Mario as done lot of those so it's not out of place. It works for what we need.
Ch. 2 & 5 - also unchanged (though the western theme as yet to be addressed.
Ch. 12, 6, & 7 - Hmm Hunted, Train, and Pit chapters. Hate to say but a pit and Luigi mansion combo would be a bit too much to pull off.
Ch. 9 - Just the Temple in the sky, that works.
Ch. 3 & 8 - Underground City + Skull Island theme. These can work together and we can remove the spy bit for more ancient Indian like theme. Mayehn theme can work for this idea.
Ch. 10 - Again the Virus is odd one but less ya gonna use a fort of magic Virus this would be strange on to do.
Ch. 11 - Unchanged.
I think chapter 7 + 9 works better so we can focus on a hunted Train mystery with some hints to the X-Nount within it.
As for Ch.2, why not just a survival chapter and Luigi has to help a few tribe with one of them being bandits and they frame Luigi resulting in the Jail break segment?
About that, Why not a role reverse. Have Luigi be silent and Mario be talkative. We can express Luigi emotions since he a lot more expressive then Mario is.
All good ideas mind you, I see ya have a sort of Mario party 2 theme but remember what type of land this is. While we can use these for it but some thing will have to change. Thus is why the Western chapter isn't good here. Maybe in a different story it will have a better place.
Well how about those it still your call in the end.
All right, now that look well tone then. Drop chapter 10 for now, it can be used for another chapter.
Other wise look like have a set just the order now. These are varied so they could fit at any point, so we need connect them to the story (outside of the Stars). In other words, They need a bit more purposes then just a place. A backstory to them the connects to the demon/the kingdom in some way. Obviously chapters set early need to be vague or not very spoiler like while the later will have more deeper stuff going on.
Ok.The new title will help we more,,is something like Paper Luigi The Wold Of Mirrors.Mirrors=Parallel dimensions. We will go much on the parallel idea,because it make the game more intreating.I don't know a backstory like the all the stars take the scissor and the stars can be find only in kingdom and demon want it... is only an idea...i'm not too inspired now.Yes the first chapters don't need to show too much about the demon's plans,but every chapter you done, the story get more deeper