I have thought of an extra row as well but since mii is after Morton I doubt it *cries forever*. Also dlc is a hope as well Tbh Id be fine with a robo peach and nintendoruiningoneofmy...I mean baby rosalina if there were more characters. But did the direct say that "here are all the characters" directly
Post by Fawfulthegreat64 on Apr 30, 2014 17:26:56 GMT -5
Well, friends, this scene is truly tragic indeed. Rosalina's backstory has been ruined, and Diddy Kong, Bowser Jr., King Boo, Birdo, and Dry Bones appear to have taken the boot, along with all the potential newcomers that may have had a chance before.
I suppose DLC is our last and only hope. Let us hope it's worthwhile.
Well, friends, this scene is truly tragic indeed. Rosalina's backstory has been ruined, and Diddy Kong, Bowser Jr., King Boo, Birdo, and Dry Bones appear to have taken the boot, along with all the potential newcomers that may have had a chance before.
I suppose DLC is our last and only hope. Let us hope it's worthwhile.
Why do i get the feeling that Nintendo is gonna pull a dick move and release veterants like King Boo in DLC just so you have to pay more to play as your favourite character ?
The Please understand is a quote Iwata tend to alway say in Nintendo Directs.
I'm glad Kirby and Luigi's Mansion are safe (if anything it help that Miyamoto consider the Luigi's games apart from the Mario series and isn't applying the "No Story" policy for it)
Still their better be an unexpected extra row (they can shrink the icon, isn't it ?) or DLC for MK8, this is the only way Nintendo could apologize for creating such abominations of characters
You have a good point. I thought that Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon had a huge amount of charm to it, and a good story. It felt so different from the regular Nintendo game now. Kirby is lucky he is not considered as big as Mario or other series, so Kirby and his designers have their own little world of freedom to design in.
What gets me is that Metal Mario and Lakitu are still in there, but no Diddy. That now means that Lakitu and Metal Mario have been in the last two games in a row! What is next? Gold Yoshi! Silver Green Luigi! Aluminum Wario!
Yep, King Boo was more threatening in that game. I felt like there was a genuine concern and dread building throughout the game. I loved it. Instead of my normal feeling of how will they screw up the final boss that I experience most of the time in the platformers.
Baby Waluigi and Wario next. Then the return of a true classic: Honey Queen! Then baby Honey Queen. Then Wooden Mario. I thought Mortal Kombat was the master of palette swaps.
Good lord, we might be giving them ideas!
So, have you come to terms yet with Antasma probably never being included, or are you still hopeful? Read up our Boo Kart topic for some fun with him.
Last Edit: Apr 30, 2014 19:55:59 GMT -5 by Rainvainz
Yeah the final boss was done right and made both King Boo and Luigi badass (the fact that cowardly Luigi pretty went on a rampage and captured an army of ghosts which nearly destroyed the universe just to save his bro cement it), then you have King Boo who was dangerously close to Dimentio level of insanity.
Let's not forget the classic Baby Metal Wahoney King
I've never considered antasma to have a realistic chance of making in the roster (i consider it more like a nice bonus), still i do want him to come back because i feel he did not reveal all, specialy that there is some pretty strange things i've found. In the battle ring Antasma X's normal color swap should have been Red (judging by Torkscrew X), instead he has the exact blue skin color as Count Bleck and light blue eyes that Bleck sport when he is injured:
Also the body frame of the trophy of Antasma X is the same as bleck (althrough a bit more slender):
IDK maybe it could be a foreshadowing ? Through his official artwork and bat form in the cover are pretty blue-ish too (his cape even look like it had a starry void inside and he has 5 fangs like bleck, in fact when i first saw him, one of my idea was that he could be a survivor of Bleck's clan), maybe i search too much.., still i swear if next game he come back with a Count Bleck-like apearance and this body frame.
Is Antasma your favorite character? I never noticed any of this. Wow, you really do search hard and you know your stuff.
Count Bleck is my favorite so this interests me. Being a member of Bleck's clan would be a cool surprise. I don't know if the Dream Team designers would acknowledge Super Paper Mario's story though. I never noticed the similarities like you did.
My favourite are Luigi, King Boo, Bowser, Count Bleck and Rosalina, i do like Antasma because what he do is rather unusual for a villain (he is weak and know it, he form alliance with other villains, he is very noble and has some hidden motivations and backstory+ he is based on Dracula and vampires and i love vampires ), which is why i want him to be back, so they can expand on him.
Both bleck and antasma are based on Dracula, so having them being related would make sense and alpha dream isn't shy about making references to Paper mario (in fact the kamek battle was a huge shout out to the Paper Mario's magikoopas), so having Antasma coming back in a count bleck-like appearance wouldn't be impossible.
In fact it would make sense making Antasma a member of them since he implied that freedom is his goal, add that the tribe is very secluded and you have some nice backstory about some lonely member who only had bats as friends (which got him the nickname of bat king) and wanted to see the outside world, thus he tried to escape only to be caught by the tribe which then cursed him into a bat, wiped his memory and banished him through the dimensions (until Pi'illo island) as a punishement for disobeying the rules, he eventually ate a nightmare accidently which fueled his rage who didn't disapear after the memory wipe and ultimately led him to become a real Bat King.
I agree with you on Antasma. I loved those qualities. I liked that he was aware of his weaknesses, instead of another arrogant villain. I loved that he sought alliances and was loyal, and noble. Same reason I love Bleck. He never betrayed his team. He cared for his team and they loved him. Well, mostly.
That's why I was gutted when Bowser betrayed him. So horrible. If only Antasma could have found Bleck or a villain willing to actually stay by him. I did not know Bleck was based on Dracula. I do love vampires. I am a werwolf type of guy, though.
You put more thought into his character than the creators I bet. ^_^
I love that backstory! Goodness, imagine a whole game adding to his story little by little. Massive potential.
Here is some amazing discussion here guys. And I so agree with all the hidden potential Antasma had. I never had any idea he could be related to Blecks tribe so nice theory as well
Another reason why Antasma should be related to the tribe is that he sport a mask on his face, or if you give him a more Count bleck-ish appearance then you would get a stereotypical Gentleman Tief (look at Tuxedo mask or Count Cannoli as the Silver Zephyr), guess who is a gentleman thief ? That's right Mr L.
So not only doing that would give him a relation to Bleck but it would also cement him as Luigi's rival by being a more physical form of Mr L.
Another reason why Antasma should be related to the tribe is that he sport a mask on his face, or if you give him a more Count bleck-ish appearance then you would get a stereotypical Gentleman Tief (look at Tuxedo mask or Count Cannoli as the Silver Zephyr), guess who is a gentleman thief ? That's right Mr L.
So not only doing that would give him a relation to Bleck but it would also cement him as Luigi's rival by being a more physical form of Mr L.
Beautiful, just perfect! I would love for Luigi to have his main rivals as King Boo and Antasma. Kind of makes Mario look tame in comparison.
I may argue, if he come back in another game, then they should give him the ability to drain Vim and leech away health to empower himself, this would make him closer to a real vampire.
He'll be like a more mobile version of those trees from the Toadwood Forest in PIT. That would make for a very dark storyline considering how dark that forest was. It was nightmare fuel. I'd love it, of course.
Would he take any of forms, or retain his forms from Dream Team? He might be able to transform after so much Vim.
I love that form. I hope so. Those vines in Neo Bowser Caslte were disturbing. I could see him placing those vines around the Mushroom Kingdom. We would have to find a way for Luigi to lead the charge against him instead of Mario.
That or Antasma use a vine whip as shout out to Castlevania
But well looking back at Mario Kart 8 i realize they wouldn't have been able to introduce him without redesign him because his body frame just don't allow him to ride the bikes and also because as mentionned before, they would redesign him just so they could remove the RPG references and market him as a Year of Luigi character.
Antasma has supersonic, vine whip, dream eater and sleep:P
I can't help but feel that if they included him, they would have made him a mix between a boo, vampire Wario & a mainstream swooper with his mask. That or this guy in much taller and purple-blue: www.mariowiki.com/Kurokyura
Antasma sounds like the perfect Pokemon troll. Just an evil moveset. Shame on you!
Haha, an enemy from the Pumpkin Zone. Wow. Never thought I would see that again. You're brain works in mysterious way, my friend. I like it though! Either one could work!
I can't wait to hear his sound effects and voice clips when he hits people with red shells.
Super Mario Land 2 was one of my favourite games and i think it need more love (seriously this is the first appearance of Wario and we hardly hear about it)
Good news, the icons of mario kart 8 roster resize when you unlock characters meaning there is still hope of an extra row/dlc
Okay, I'm officially excited for Antasma in Pokemon! I wonder how many play styles would ban him, dude. Shadow Claw needs to be a move too, an Shadow Sneak. We need to make a topic for this. ^_^
I thought it was a very underrated game too. Much like Link's Awakening and Metroid 2. Old Gameboy games are forgotten now. Pumpkin Zone was my favorite, by the way. Yours?
Yes! Indeed good news! I'm still hopeful then. Let's stay positive.
He is from the super mario bros super show, his story is rather pretty sad, basically he is a vampire who supposedly chase bats which inhabit the houses of people. In the end it turn out that the bat and him are the same person and that he was doing that so he could stay with peoples during the hunt and become friends (he said that living in the night while other peoples lived in the day didn't give him the chance to make friends thus he was lonely)
Space zone is my favourite, dat moon level, dat star maze music. but Pumpkin Zone is a close second.
Even if there isn't a RPG rep, i really hope there is an extra row with King Boo (at worst they could make a DLC), still i would laugh if Antasma is a DLC rep but end up being the most downloaded and played because he is the MK8's Funky Kong :fawful2:
Was the Super Mario Bros. Super show a live action show or animated? I definitely do not remember this guy. What a sad story. Poor lonely guy. That is an oddly good story for a show like that.
Speaking of vampires, check out Lester DeRosso from Bravely Default. He is my latest vampire obsession. He gives the player the vampire class after you defeat him. I made my group into a vampire group! ^_^
You and I are so close in favorites! Space Zone is my second favorite. I'm a sucker for moon levels, stars, and space music. That Space Land from Kirby's Epic Yarn was a dream come true for me.
Diddy and King Boo need to make it. Anything less is a huge middle finger to those fans. It is not like King Boo and Diddy are obscure either. They were just in Dark Moon and Tropical Freeze! They have tons of fans. Antasma being a a downloaded favorite would provide so much vindication for me. I'd love it. I'd buy a Wii U immediately! Do you have the system?
Yes, and this is another example on how Antasma was wasted, you have this guy, you have count bleck, seriously they could have done a lot of tragedy with Antasma, instead all we got was disposable flat villain only used to glorify even more Bowser :/ (i like Bowser but sometime i feel Nintendo wank him way too much)
I wish the plane gameplay from SML could return it was a very nice idea and could work in games like 3D world where you can pick up various items.
Yes Diddy (or Cranky) and King Boo are a must, specially King boo in his LM:DM design. well i was thinking Nintend could release a Year of Luigi pack, 1 track based on DT, LM:DM and NSLU with 8bits luigis cameos, Antasma, nabbit and Polterpup as playable and Greenies, Viruses (from dr Luigi), 8bits Luigi and Pi'illo based Karts.