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Help Me Think of The Unique Characters. May 22, 2014 18:45:39 GMT -5

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Post by Rainvainz on May 22, 2014 18:45:39 GMT -5

Okay, I recently saw somebody say that this game has about as much unique characters as the others, about as much as Thousand-Year Door or Super Paper Mario per chapter. I'm at a loss here. Help me out.

Super Paper Mario Chapter 1 characters

O'Chunks
Dimentio
Fracktail
Merlumina
Watchitt
Bestovious
Bridge Master Red
Bridge Master Green
Thoreau

Thousand-Year Door Chapter 1 characters

Hooktail
Koops
Koopie Koo
Mr. Mowz
Koopley
Kroop
General White

Stick Star World 1 Character

Kamek
Bowser Jr.
Megasparkle Goomba

Who else?

This is just the first chapter comparison. Think of comparing the Glitz Pit to Sticker Star. That one area would sweep of all Sticker Star.

Who else was an original character from Sticker Star, Kamek and Bowser Jr. already exist, but I could not think of many others.

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Help Me Think of The Unique Characters. May 22, 2014 19:52:02 GMT -5

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May 22, 2014 19:49:11 GMT -5 SolarBlaze said:

Kersti?

That does seem to be it, even though she is mostly prologue, like Tippi.

Man, what a barren game. I recently played SPM Chapter 2, and did you know each prisoner of Mimi's has a name and a few traits? Each one.

At least you tried.

Wiggler for president I guess.

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Help Me Think of The Unique Characters. May 22, 2014 19:59:08 GMT -5

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Post by SolarBlaze on May 22, 2014 19:59:08 GMT -5

I can't believe someone seriously said that Sticker Star had just as much unique characters as the last few games, when there was only a whopping one new character. I'm starting to wonder whether or not that person even played the previous games.

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Help Me Think of The Unique Characters. May 22, 2014 20:08:26 GMT -5

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May 22, 2014 19:59:08 GMT -5 SolarBlaze said:

I can't believe someone seriously said that Sticker Star had just as much unique characters as the last few games, when there was only a whopping one new character. I'm starting to wonder whether or not that person even played the previous games.

GameFAQS, dude. I need to stop reading that site. It goes on to say that each world in Sticker Star had about as much story as each chapter in Super Paper Mario.

I don't even...

The story in the Downtown of Crag is already enough to beat sticker Star, let alone Francis, Sammer Kingdom, or the Underwhere!

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Help Me Think of The Unique Characters. May 22, 2014 20:15:32 GMT -5

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Post by SolarBlaze on May 22, 2014 20:15:32 GMT -5

So, GameFAQs is the site in question, huh? I wish I could say I was surprised.

Seriously, the only world in Sticker Star that had anything that even remotely resembled a story was the third world, and maybe the second, to some degree.

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Help Me Think of The Unique Characters. May 22, 2014 20:54:32 GMT -5

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May 22, 2014 20:15:32 GMT -5 SolarBlaze said:

So, GameFAQs is the site in question, huh? I wish I could say I was surprised.

Seriously, the only world in Sticker Star that had anything that even remotely resembled a story was the third world, and maybe the second, to some degree.

Aw, not shocked?

That site is indeed where I saw these complaints in particular, but the complaints about Dream Team's dialogue came from GameFAQS and some others, like Neoseeker and others. I don't know which is the worst.

Yep, and the fourth world has Enigmansion, which actually has some people to talk too!

What is the story for world 2? I'm not quite sure I understand you? The toad at the Oasis? Hey, forgot about him! ^_^

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Help Me Think of The Unique Characters. May 22, 2014 21:00:56 GMT -5

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Post by Rainvainz on May 22, 2014 21:00:56 GMT -5

Oh wow, yeah... that part. That still leaves the game barren compared to Merlee's Mansion or the Boggly Woods.

Oh, get this. They also said that the bosses were the best in the series because you had to think, instead of leveling up and smashing everything.

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Help Me Think of The Unique Characters. May 22, 2014 21:14:27 GMT -5

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Post by SolarBlaze on May 22, 2014 21:14:27 GMT -5

The only "thinking" that's required is figuring out which "Thing" they're weak against. Other than that, there's no real challenge to the bosses. Petey Piranha, in particular, was one of the easiest bosses in the game.

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SolarBlaze Global Moderator Posts: 8,426 Favorite Mario character(s): Dimentio	Help Me Think of The Unique Characters. May 22, 2014 21:34:13 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by SolarBlaze on May 22, 2014 21:34:13 GMT -5 Yeah, exactly. You know, speaking of easy bosses, I actually found Super Dimentio to be more of a challenge than Giant Bowser was, and that's saying a lot.

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Help Me Think of The Unique Characters. May 23, 2014 9:40:36 GMT -5

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Post by SolarBlaze on May 23, 2014 9:40:36 GMT -5

Yeah. In that game, he pretty much appeared out of nowhere, with little to no explanation. Dream Team (along with the fact that he's the final boss in nearly every platformer) was already enough proof of Nintendo's blatant favoritism towards Bowser, but Yoshi's New Island helped proved that point even further. That just goes to show that they'll do anything to have him BS his way into the final boss slot, whether it's doing something out of his character like in Dream Team, or showing up out of the blue, just like Yoshi's New Island.

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Help Me Think of The Unique Characters. May 23, 2014 9:44:33 GMT -5

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Post by Rainvainz on May 23, 2014 9:44:33 GMT -5

Yeah, and you are not even being dramatic. He literally pops up out of nothingness in Yoshi's New Island. He has no business being there. However, like before, many people seemed to view this as one of the game's better qualities. Most people hated on the game, but praised Bowser. It is so backwards to me.

I wonder what his role will be in the next Paper Mario game, if we get one.

Which game had your ideal Bowser again?

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Help Me Think of The Unique Characters. May 23, 2014 10:11:57 GMT -5

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Post by Rainvainz on May 23, 2014 10:11:57 GMT -5

So, Mario RPG Bowser and Super Paper Mario must have made you happy as far as Bowser goes.

I liked him in those games and Thousand-Year Door. I really wanted him to do something special in Sticker Star, but was horrified to find out that he just ran away and never appeared until the end! That is my least favorite form of Bowser.

Another Unique Character from this game, by the way, is the traveling toad. Remember him? He lies and sends post cards to the toad in the town. Woohoo, a character! ^_^

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Help Me Think of The Unique Characters. May 23, 2014 10:22:30 GMT -5

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Post by solidfalcon3 on May 23, 2014 10:22:30 GMT -5

May 23, 2014 10:06:46 GMT -5 SolarBlaze said:

Ugh, Bowser fanboys... I can't stand them, I really can't.

As for my ideal Bowser? I like him better as an anti-hero than I do as a villain.

The furry fandom is strong with him, that's why.

Glorious Bowser's furry fandom >>> Puny RPG villains peasants

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Help Me Think of The Unique Characters. May 23, 2014 10:37:01 GMT -5

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May 23, 2014 10:11:57 GMT -5 Rainvainz said:

So, Mario RPG Bowser and Super Paper Mario must have made you happy as far as Bowser goes.

Pretty much, but admittedly, I never had any problem with Bowser in any of the RPG installments up until Sticker Star and Dream Team. One thing I'll give the former game credit for, however, is that they at least made it clear from the start that Bowser was going to be the final boss, and wasn't done in the form of a blatant copout, at the expense of another, more interesting character.

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Help Me Think of The Unique Characters. May 23, 2014 10:45:18 GMT -5

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Post by Rainvainz on May 23, 2014 10:45:18 GMT -5

I just never was a huge fan of Bowser, I suppose, even before those games! I find Dream Team to be a huge offense, but Sticker Star Bowser was more offensive to me. I just can't stand that type.

What about platformers? Did you like him there? His Mario 64 self was rather ominous actually.

Furries?! Maybe you meant Flurries!

Falcon, I hope the furries have nothing to do with all this! Please, oh please. We don't need that extra layer of... um, weirdness added!

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Help Me Think of The Unique Characters. May 23, 2014 11:01:25 GMT -5

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May 23, 2014 10:45:18 GMT -5 Rainvainz said:

Furries?! Maybe you meant Flurries!

Falcon, I hope the furries have nothing to do with all this! Please, oh please. We don't need that extra layer of... um, weirdness added!

You'll be surprised at the amount of furry Bowser porn you can find on the web, seriously is there is any wonder about why he get so much over-exposure ?

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Help Me Think of The Unique Characters. May 23, 2014 11:10:40 GMT -5

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Post by SolarBlaze on May 23, 2014 11:10:40 GMT -5

*Shudders* Creepy.

May 23, 2014 10:45:18 GMT -5 Rainvainz said:

What about platformers? Did you like him there? His Mario 64 self was rather ominous actually.

I guess he was okay in that game and Galaxy, but even back then, I still wasn't a huge fan of Bowser. As a villain, he's way too boring, repetitive, and predictable for my tastes, and it's absolutely mind-boggling as to how or why he, of all people, ended up getting singled out as the "Great Video Game Villain of All Time" in the Guinness World Records. I could think of tons of better villains, in and out of the Mario series that were probably far more deserving of that title.

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Help Me Think of The Unique Characters. May 23, 2014 11:28:03 GMT -5

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Yes, very creepy indeed. I won't even bother looking for that stuff.

Ah,yes, Bowser is repetitive. That's why I was always a K. Rool guy! He spiced it up every game, even back when platformers did not require it. I'd love to see how much K. Rool could have evolved by now if he got as much attention as Bowser. I forgot that Bowser won that record, actually. He is even voted ahead of Ganondorf and other popular villains online in various polls. I have seen so many hurt/heal threads with Bowser dominating.

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Help Me Think of The Unique Characters. May 23, 2014 11:33:46 GMT -5

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Post by solidfalcon3 on May 23, 2014 11:33:46 GMT -5

I alway get the feeling that Nintendo is playing too safe:

Developper 1: Maybe we should do a nice mario games with awesome ideas !

Developper 2: But-but if the peoples don't like it ?

Developper 1: You're right, we don't want to make the peoples disapoint, let's make it like in the way it had alway worked, no story, same assets, Bowser as the villain (because everyone love Bowser) and some Nostlagia thrown for good measure, just like how NSMBW worked !

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Help Me Think of The Unique Characters. May 23, 2014 11:47:09 GMT -5

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May 23, 2014 11:33:46 GMT -5 solidfalcon3 said:

I alway get the feeling that Nintendo is playing too safe:

Developper 1: Maybe we should do a nice mario games with awesome ideas !

Developper 2: But-but if the peoples don't like it ?

Developper 1: You're right, we don't want to make the peoples disapoint, let's make it like in the way it had alway worked, no story, same assets, Bowser as the villain (because everyone love Bowser) and some Nostlagia thrown for good measure, just like how NSMBW worked !

Bingo! It is like you sat in on the meetings!

Super Paper Mario really took a huge gamble, and since then, they have played it pretty safe. Dream Team was a departure from that safeness to a degree, by eventually fell back into safe ways.

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Nintendo wants to play safe and its a shame

Also speaking of gamefaqs in the Layton vs AA board some pwople complained how text heavy it is... well its an point and click adventure , what do you expect. May remember it a bit wrong tho

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Well I havent checked the miracle mask board (thank Primus) but yeah.... I think it was only one person who complained about the dialogue in pl vs aaa. Most times people complain about the plottwisr of the game... and thats it

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